A third, even less well known, blunder
"You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never to get involved in a land war in Asia. And only slightly less well known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!" -- Vizzini, The Princess Bride
Mike brought up some good points about the people that were getting pissed off about Vonnegut's articles being so leftist.
The people on those forums who posted responses like "WTF, when did Vonnegut become so cynical?" Either A) haven't read any of his books or B) didn't understand any of his books.
That makes these people either A) Totally ignorant of his work or B) retarded.
He calls himself a "lifelong Northern Democrat"--which is to say he is a socialist. He always has been. Read God bless you Mr. Goldwater. Read Galapagos. Re-read Slaughterhouse Five because you obviously didn't understand it in high school and/or college.
When Mike said he was an "unabashed" liberal, I thought of another word, "smashmouth". Both are good.
He hits you over the head with his humanism--He forces you to confront his ideas through his dogged use of plain speech, repetition of themes and sarcasm. He often borders on polemics, but unlike Moore and Limbaugh and Franken and Coulter, he makes his case with insights into human nature, rather than the crude observations of individuals or policies that make those firebrands seem transient and unimportant.
He scolds. He lectures. Most of all though, he resonates. That, I think, is what makes those who disagree with him so violently angry. His work will live on long after their petty complaints die a horrible memetic death.
Which proponents of unfettered capitalism will have that kind of longievity? I can't think of one, other than the lumbering market economy itself. And that can be undone--rather, it's dehumanizing effects can be reversed.
I have no idea why Vonnegut's brand of humanism is seen as a leftist cause. That's not what I mean. I do have an idea why it's seen as a leftist cause, and I think the reasoning is fucking stupid.
Humanism in this case has something to do with wanting Universal Healthcare and the idea that Life, Liberty and Property (or "the pursuit of happiness" depending on the wording) should mean more than just allowing people to make as much money as possible. It should mean letting each human being prosper with dignity and respect.
This rubs a lot of people the wrong way. What bastards these humanists be. Some fucking nerve.
I think there are two--maybe three, I'm undecided--essential problems facing Humanist public relations. First is that they (we) don't think money should be elevated above people. This concept is anathema to the founding principles of American corporate culture. In a legislative machine not just greased but fueled by soft money from big business, that's an daunting ideological hill to climb--a little like a land war in Asia.
Secondly, the humanist ethos is rooted deeply in what is called socialism. Socialism, in the minds of Americans alive during the Cold War, is inextricably linked to Soviet-era Communism. Through that it's linked to genocide, despotism, militarism, pressed cardboard cars, bread lines, thought police, and George Orwell's unimaginative talking barnyard.
That portrayal is at best unfair. Luckily, it's not shared by most of the rest of the world. My friend Rich would agree with me on that. He's from Europe. Before someone calls me an Arrogant Liberal, I'll ammend that: He's British. Not French. He's a charter member of the Coalition of the Willing. He's not a Communist or a member of the Taliban. He has democratically elected leaders and free healthcare. It's not perfect, but it's better than an HMO.
You can have Socialist programs outside a communist framework, and certainly without a totalitarian regime. I don't think a lot of people know that.
There is a third point that I almost hesitate to bring up because I'm not decided about it. I'm ususally pretty indiscriminate with my words anyway though so I'll just dive in. Protestantism. Specifically American Protestantism. Here's how I break it down. Protestantism as discussed here (I'm not advocating the reading of Time Magazine, God no) is a doctrine of personal responsibility and acountability. This is a good thing in the right circumstances, but too often it translates into:
"You can be anything you want to be ... and if you don't make it, you have no one to blame but yourself" -- Berkeley sociologist Robert Bellah (you should also never quote Time Magazine)
This is a problem in a democratic system when people genuinely believe that the Haves have because they work hard and the Havenots lack because they are lazy. The people with power--with money--having grown up in this environment, tend to view programs like welfare and worker's compensation with disdain and as a theft of hard earned money. Then when you have an evangelist like Casey Treat preaching that to be poor is an indication of sin, the problem only gets worse because public perception shifts even farther from the truth. The poor hear these word faith evangelists spew their scorched-earth, smash and grab theology and they become more distraught at the fact that God has shunned them, or that they are unworthy of God. That's not religious consolation, thats a bitter and dangerous pill.
More often than people like to admit, the poor are poor as a function of disenfrancisement and systematic oppression. I'm not talking about racial oppression, though that certainly happens. This is a class based thing. With wages that don't match inflation, the cliche "the rich get richer, the poor get poorer," is completely true. It takes money to make money. If you don't have any, how the hell are you going to get any? People don't see this because it isn't in the best interest of the policy makers to shed light on the subject.
So maybe the biggest problem of all (this makes four I guess) is that our legislators are self-serving morons who line their own pockets and have little desire and even less initiative to exact any kind of social change, because the poor don't vote anyway. Why push for education reform when you can get re-elected without it? Why fight for worker's rights when your slush fund is overflowing with corporate payouts? It's bullshit that, despite the passing of the McCain-Feingold bill, it's still perfectly fine to have one night an election term where all the soft money interests in America can spend as much money on a candidate as they want. They had one at the DNC and they'll definitely throw one for Bush. It's sickening and it's bad for democracy. But it's especially bad in a capitalistic democracy in which only money has any real power.
I think I'm really far off my initial topic so rather than scramble to right this sinking ship, I'll just abandon it--But I'll talk some more first . . .
My point is that Socialism is more or less facing a nasty quadruple-penetration in this country, and a lot needs to change before it even becomes a viable topic of discourse. This is a shame because the humanistic ethos seems like a no-brainer to me frankly. I think if more people knew the facts about it, there would be less resistance to it. At the very least there could be a more open political dialogue. And any kind of dialogue is better than any kind of silence.
Maybe that's naive of me.
But I'm a snot-nosed liberal arts major and I don't care that much about money, so I'm predisposed to bleeding heart syndrome. I think that makes me a threat to national security.
I wonder if Vonnegut hates dashes as much as he hates semicolons . . .
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Hmmm, you seem to be ignoring the fundamental embrace of socialism that our country began in the 30's with the New Deal. All of our lives are touched by Social Security, Medicare and so on. The Democratic nominee is campaigning on a health platform which proposes that 75% of all catstrophic health costs be paid by the government to ease the burden on insurance companies and lower premiums. That's 25% shy of socialism, no?
It ain't pretty, but we're getting there.
i read the Vonnegut article that the guy was complaining about down there. Nevermind that guy, are you telling me YOU haven't read that exact same article, some times with a few of the words in a different order, a hundred times before? Probably a dozen last week. So besides boring me he broke Godwin's Law, meaning i can ignore the rest of Kurt's articles unless you feature them later in your blog, giving me a reason to read them.
Additional: "any kind of dialogue is better than any kind of silence" i occasionally have this particular noble thought myself, but then i think of some of the dialogues out there. You know the ones i mean. And you know ones i DON'T mean.
i think i briefly alluded to all that in my F9/11 review...
-ben
"So maybe the biggest problem of all (this makes four I guess) is that our legislators are self-serving morons who line their own pockets and have little desire and even less initiative to exact any kind of social change, because the poor don't vote anyway."
That's mostly true, but it's also a little too easy to slough all the responsibility onto the legislators. Sure, most are overstuffed sacks of shit, but a few (Washington's own McDermott, Delaware's Biden, Arizona's McCain) have pretty huge nuts and take intelligent, poor-friendly stances on issues from time to time. I think it's more interesting to address your statement about the poor not voting.
You're right that the poor don't vote as much as the middle class and definitely not as much as the upper class, but part of the problem with social(ist) agendas in this country is the way in which the poor waste their vote by supporting the very legislation that guarantees, or, at least, prolongs their poverty. Why? It's called the Horatio Alger Myth. Rather than write my own treatment, I'll cut-and-paste some of the salient points from the chapeter "Horatio Alger Must Die" from Michael Moore's "Dude, Where's My Country" (sorry to lean on Moore, but there are a few really good things in this book sandwiched between all the claptrap):
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“The other drug is nicer. It is first prescribed to us as children in the form of a fairy tale - but a fairy tale that can actually come true! It is the Horatio Alger myth. Alger was one of the most popular American writers of the late 1800s. His stories featured characters from impoverished backgrounds who, through pluck and determination and hard work, were able to make huge successes of themselves in this land of boundless opportunity. The message was that anyone can make it in America, and make it big.
We are addicted to this happy rags-to-riches myth in this country. People in other industrialised democracies are content to make a good enough living to pay their bills and raise their families. Few have a cutthroat desire to strike it rich. They live in reality, where there are only going to be a few rich people, and you are not going to be one of them. So get used to it.”
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“Listen, friends, you have to face the truth: you are never going to be rich. The chance of that happening is about one in a million. Not only are you never going to be rich, but you are going to have to live the rest of your life busting your butt just to pay the cable bill and the music and art classes for your kid at the public school where they used to be free.”
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The rest of the chapter (which, to be fair, includes a very interesting writeup on 'Dead Peasants Insurance') loses its way with a tirade about corporations that should've instead explored the responsibility of the populace. If you're interested, you can read it online in its entirety at http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=10&ItemID=4317 .
People (esp. the upper middle class, but also the poor) in this country are so invested in this rags-to-riches idea that they vote the opposite of the way they should on many things. To make a hyperbolic example, let's say that some legislation is going through congress that is going to heavily tilt taxes towards the rich (and by rich, I mean $200,000+), socialize medicine, and increase welfare benefits. Now, let's say that you are a student in law school. You're at a pretty good school, so you know that you're going to strike it rich in just a couple of years when you pass the bar exam. How do you vote? Well, you're not rich now, but you will be in just a couple of years, and paying an extra $20,000 a year for the rest of your life (on top of the already exorbitant taxes you will pay as a member of the nation's richest class) doesn't sound that appealing, so you vote 'no' on this bill (Okay, reality check. Citizens don't vote on bills in Congress, they elect officials to represent their interests. Luke has noted the failure in this contract, but, just for the sake of expediency, let's pretend that the people get to vote directly. Hell, maybe it's a binding national referendum. I don't know. Use your imagination), right? Okay, fine, you're just looking out for your interests. Now, let's pretend that you get injured such that you cannot continue your studies. Now what? You're $100,000 dollars in debt, your bachelors (as Luke and I can attest to) doesn't mean shit for getting you a high paying job, and you can only get a job at Walmart. You're the very definition of the working poor, and, to top things off, you default on your student loans and your credit rating is destroyed. Bye bye chances at home-ownership.
The bill you voted 'no' for went down in flames. After all, why would the rich want to foot the bill for the poor? So, you've got no healthcare (you did read the bit in your Walmart contract about the health insurance not covering pre-existing conditions, right?), so your medical bills are sky high, cutting further into your meager paycheck. Finally, you can't believe how much of you paycheck goes to taxes. Who would've thought that $2,000 a year would be so much money? You manage to eek out a living, but your soul has died because you are underemployed and can't afford anything that would bring joy into your life, like hookers. If you could just get a *little bit* ahead, you could try to go back to law school, but you know that won't happen.
Okay, that's a pretty wildly specific scenario, but it is similar to the trap that so many college students fall into (a good job is on the way, I'll go ahead and vote like I've already got it). The poor are a little bit more delusional in that they seem to 'vote stupid' even though they have no chance of buying into the benefits they so gladly provide for the rich.
The reason that so many of the *poor* vote Republican is the hand up/hand out distinction. They (poor people) have a sense of nobility (which isn't a bad thing in and of itself) and are offended by the idea that liberals don't think that they (poor people) can get ahead without their (liberals) help. On the other side of the fence, (bleeding-heart) liberals see it as their responsibility to help the 'underprivileged.'
The synthesis of these arguments is a friend of Aleah's family, Ed. Ed votes Republican. Why? Probably many reasons, but, invariably, he always lists one first. See, Ed is of Mexican origin. His poor parents moved to the States from Mexico so that he could have a better life. He worked hard in college and got a job with Hewlett-Packard. Over the years, he rose into middle-management and starting collecting fairly handsome paychecks. He lived in Silicon Valley with his wife and his two girls in a million dollar home. In short, he made it. He resents the idea that liberals think that he couldn't make it without their help, and that they had a hand in his success. As far as he is concerned, he is 100% responsible for his success. He probably is.
Socialism, liberalism, whatever, isn't about who gets credit. It's about making sure everybody winds up okay. The number one criticism of socialist democracies (in the style of England, France, and Canada) is that that system isn't fair. Let me be perfectly clear here: SOCIALISM IS NOT FAIR. SOCIALISM IS JUST. Like Luke points out, socialism and humanism seem to run in roughly the same circles. If you are rich, you pay out more to put a little more into the pockets of the poor. Is that such a detestable idea? I mean, you're *rich* for chrissakes. To return to my earlier, somewhat facetious example, if that guy would've got the high-paying job as a lawyer, the $30,000-$50,000 he would've paid every year in taxes would've still left him with well over $100,000 a year in net income. Is that fair? No. But, trust me, I'm sure he would've found a way to get by. On the other hand, when he wound up poor, making, let's say, $22,000 a year, the $2,000 dollars a year he paid in taxes are a pretty fucking big deal. Sure, percentage wise, he pays a lot less, but the cost of food and housing don't (to a point) slide that much with income. There's only so shitty of an apartment you can find.
One non-socialist humanist argument is that, by reducing the tax burden on the rich, it frees up more money for them to funnel into charity. Bullshit. I think that argument is certainly true to a point, but there is no way that charitable donations could ever add up to the amount of revenue that a dedicated tax would bring in. It also cuts the middle class out of the picture entirely.
That's probably enough ranting for now. I had a little thing on 19th century hyper-Calvinism (who says liberal arts education is useless?) that would've added a dimension to your point about Protestantism, but I'm too tired to write it now. Maybe I'll add it in a day or two.
--Mike Sheffler
Just so I know, is that a picture (located just to the right of Casey Treat) of Tom Cruise giving his 'respect the cock!' speech in Magnolia?
--Mike Sheffler
That is indeed Frank TJ Mackey.
I really wish everyone got this guy's sermons broadcast in their homes so they could understand what a dangerous gospel he preaches. At least read the article, though it's not nearly as hard on him as it should be.
Jodru, I didn't forget about the new deal, it's just being undermined at every turn--by a republican president granted, but also by the waste of the huge beaurocracies it takes to put them in place. Social Security and medicare both need serious overhauls, am I right? I'm not as up on this as you seem to be.
And yeah, Kerry's health plan is good, but there is still way more revulsion to it than there ought to be.
One thing I wanted to talk about and forgot (this was essentially a rant, not very well planned out) was how ill-served America is by the two-party system, which encourages centrism in our leaders and an ignorance of fringe ideals in our people.
There was also the fear thing that I wanted to address, but Mike gave us all the Moore I can stand for one day. Just kidding.
Hmmm, I just got an idea . . .
And Ben, I'd never heard of Godwin's law before, but that's brilliant.
Anyway you're right, a thousand times before, but with vonnegut's particular slant. The stuff about addiction to fossil fuels and whatnot.
I dunno. He's treading well worn ground, but it's still funny and infuriating to read.
I think I'm just a fanboy.
Did any of you read any of the other articles on that site? Neither did I, kinda interested though.
What articles on what site?
--Mike Sheffler
On the site that publishes those Vonnegut pieces . . . inthesetimes.com I think
My perspective was skewed there. You can't find anything with the Vonnegut slant in an Op/Ed piece or letter to the editor;(!) the place i'd seen a thousand of them was at portalofevil.com News forums. i spent an hour or two there almost every day we were living by Gonzaga. The posters there are the most vicious bastards i've ever seen on the internet, and they all have a bachelor degree in one thing or another.
POE was the place i first heard about Godwin's Law, though it wasn't formally named. The rule was that you automatically lose an argument if you invoke Hitler. So if someone mentioned Hitler the next post on the thread would be "YOU LOSE n/t" That's daunting for someone like me who always breaks Godwin's Law. Though i always do it at least half-jokingly. It turns out that Hitler is a lot like Kevin Bacon.
As far as Vonnegut's specific point up there, i can't form an serious opinion until i read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (if i ever do). As far as i know thats the definitive book about Hitler and Nazis, since that's the one people reference most often. i'd take suggestions. As to my currently uninformed opinion, i know that if you want to gain power in a predominantly Christian country you need to mention God in your speeches like Hitler did, regardless of your personal beliefs. And possibly Adolph thought he was Jesus's personal homeboy like George seems to. i dunno.
-ben
Ben,
I read 'Rise and Fall ....' back in high school. Its pretty interesting and I would easily recommend it to just about anyone. You'll be so impressed by the effectiveness of the nazis propaganda methods that you'll be goose-stepping around shouting 'Zeig Heil! in no time.
In fact, you should go back to college to do your goose-stepping and 'zeig heil'-ing to show how well read you are. You'll be amazed at the response you get.
*sigh* Well, we drifted off topic in a hurry on this one. Oh well. Luke, yeah, I read a bunch of Vonnegut's articles from inthesetimes.com . 'State of the Asylum' is good, and so are most of the 'Dear, Mr. Vonnegut's
--Mike Sheffler
As far as the goose stepping around campus, i don't think anyone would notice at SFCC. It's not the most politically active place since everyone just wants to put in their 2-3 years and move on to a real college. And as far as doing that routine at a real college, if i just slapped an American flag somewhere on the uniform people would go, "Oh, I get it! It's a protest!" and march right behind me. Good old propoganda.
-ben
Nice work Mike, I usually count on Ben to make sure my Politically Incorrect alarm is functioning.
And speaking of protests Ben, I saw something close to what you were talking about.
A group of people at this Folk festival earlier in the summer were dressed like GIs and singing songs like "My Country tis of Thee". It would have seemed patriotic if they didn't have people handcuffed and kneeling at their feet in Orange jumpsuits with Guantanamo Bay written on their chests.
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